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Wow, this is a fascinating interview. I really love (and was also surprised by) his statement “The teacher’s motivating style is the most important thing in the classroom.” Wow!

Have you happened to read anything from John Taylor Gatto? He was NYC Teacher of the Year for three years but eventually decided to be a proponent for unschooling, and I see a lot of resemblances between what I've read from him and what you discuss here.

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Weapons of mass instruction is on my list :) I was also very surprised by that statement - I assumed class size was top of the list!

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My favourite part: "What we’re talking about is the hard and important work of promoting internalisation, trying to build up a sense of value in you" 👌

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